Tuesday, May 5, 2009

A Jewish person please explain to me the Jewish outlook on the name of the Creator?

I have heard Elohim, YHVW, Yahwew, also that the true name of God has been lost because only the high preist was allowed to say it, that the Torah is one long name of God, that the name of God isn't suppposed to be said, what is the real deal about this someone JEWISH please explain?

A Jewish person please explain to me the Jewish outlook on the name of the Creator?
Yahweh is a Christian invention to explain the Tetragrammaton, YHVH. Ancient written Hebrew had no vowels, (edited to remove wrong info)





With the destruction of the Temple and the Diaspora, the true *pronunciation* has been lost, but the name is still YHVH.





The idea that the Torah is the name in long form comes from kabbalistic thought and is not a part of mainstream Judaism.





Just like a woman can be called by her name by friends, "daughter" by her parents, "mother" by her children, etc., etc., HaShem has different *titles* depending on what relationship you are referring to.





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The above poster has serious issues with Judaism, without any understanding of it at all. It CANNOT have been Yahweh, the "w" sound didn't even exist back then, and he pulled the vowel sounds out of thin air.





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Thank you for correcting me on the high priest thing, Schmo, not sure where I picked that up from, but I'll try to remember that now.
Reply:It isn't true that only the High Priest was allowed to use it. That DID eventually become the case, but it wasn't always.





1. YHVH, YHWH, ELOHIM, are names of God, but not Yahweh, this is a Christian mistranslation. You won't find Jews using "Yahweh".





2. Yes, the Torah is one long name of God, according to the Chassidim and Kabbalah.





3. It isn't so much that the name of God isn't supposed to be said, it's that the actual pronunciation of YHVH has been lost. Rather than mispronounce it, it is taught that when the Moshiach comes the pronunciation will be revealed once again.








EDIT: Heya Phoenix :) I wasn't correcting you actually. I hadn't seen your post before I made mine. I was just addressing the Asker's question about it.
Reply:God's name is yud hey vav hey or יהוה.





There are other words used as descriptions of God such as Adonai, or El Shaddai, which reflect upon the character or description of God at that moment etc.





As far as how to pronounce יהוה, a major issue is that in Hebrew there's no vowel markings. Back during the temple the Kohanim (priests) would say the name of God during the high holidays only, and not at other times, so when the Temple was destroyed, the pronounciation of the word was lost, since there's no vowel markings to tell us what to say. People can guess all they like and some people prefer yahweh, but to be honest there's no W in Hebrew, and if you want to fool aorund with the vowel sounds you could come up with several possibilities such as: yoVah, or Yooveh, or YeHoVeeHo





I mean, seriously you can mix and match here.
Reply:Here's a link with a lot of details on the various names.


http://www.aish.com/literacy/concepts/Re...





Judaism lives with mulitple layers %26amp; meanings to Torah %26amp; to everything. So, the idea of multiple name of God also makes sense. They refer to different elements or to different ways to looking at God or to the different place you are in when using a name. God being the most important concept in Judaism, would of course have lots of names, no :)?





The site I linked to is Orthodox %26amp; written by Rabbis for other Jews to learn more about Judaism.
Reply:answer: YHVH are the Hebrew letters for the name of G-d. There are no vowels in Hebrew. No one really knows what the vowels between those letters were and Jews don't use the YHVH, Jehovah, Yawheh or another other combination. The true verbalization was lost.





Jews prefer to use the term Elohim, Adonai or Hashem when praying to G-d or talking about him.






Reply:Jews do not call the name of God 'Yahweh'. They follow something known as the E document which has lots of Canaanite exposures. So you are really asking the wrong ones. I worship Yahweh and I can tell that is is name.





Reference: Difference between the Y document and the Canaanite false E document which modern Jews follow!


[ http://www.billnourse.com/4SOURCE.HTM ]





Read a book called The Memorial Name of Yahweh by Jacob O Meir. The Hebrew name was spelled with vowel points as IAUE.





Read this article about Flavius Josephus spelling the name with vowels http://www.wwyd.org/The_Name.htm. It is quoted from out of his book. It is Yahweh the Dead Sea Scroll said it 7,000 times. Enosh and all Hebrews through out worshiped a being by his name of Yahweh. Not all these other false names such as El, El Shaddai, Eloah , Adonai and all this that's all names of Canaanite gods.


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